Sunday, February 28, 2010

Did You Say Jesus Was Gay?

There is nothing that prevents a musician from musing, but when he belches out banalities at regular intervals it is time for him to stop at what he does best and leave the thinking to rational minds.

When Elton John recently expressed his conviction that Jesus Christ was a super intelligent, compassionate gay individual he surely didn’t mean to demean —being an ‘open’ gay himself. But I would say that his choice of method to remain in the limelight is in bad taste.

It amuses me to think that Sir John has cleverly conjoined traits such as intelligence and compassion with homosexuality, thereby making a veiled attempt at praising himself and the members of his jolly gay bandwagon!

It was not too long ago that Dan Brown , in an effort to debunk the myth surrounding Christ, projected Him as a married person in the ‘Da Vinci Code’ and even went on to describe His present- day descendants!!

I confess to wondering at the plight of Sir John had he dared to pass ‘out-of-the-box’ comments on a certain bearded, long-robed members of the human species .

He would only have to stop speaking, for a fatwa’ to be issued against him, and the world would have witnessed the music maestro hopping between continents, crawling between caves (with his gigolo in tow) in a desperate attempt to stay alive!
Or he would have had to seek refuge in an obscure nation, like MF Hussein, whose artistic expressions (founded on Hindu Goddesses) made the saffron brigade see red!

It is overwhelming to realize that Jesus Christ continues to command attention even after 20 centuries, but He certainly does not need distorted versions of His short existence to promote His causes! Remember, He is already famous and continues to overshadow all those who came before and after Him!

Why is it that these blasphemers, posing as thinkers, fail to realize that there is a middle ground between homosexuality and leading a married life?

We’ve all heard of people who have breathed and lived for a cause. As far as I understand, JC was a revolutionary, and a teacher, who came to challenge and change a populace that was steeped in bigotry and injustice! Given the time and place that He was around, it certainly was no mean task!

He knew His time was short (33 yrs) and was, therefore, focused on completing His mission, the result of which is evident even today!

To commit a slur against the icon of the (still) most popular religion of the world (which does not endorse homosexuality), and to continue to remain alive, speaks volumes about the concepts of compassion and forgiveness that the Great Master has passed on to His followers.

BTW, Sir Elton, you really suck (pun intended)!!

37 comments:

  1. It looks like everyone who feels they can, just say things. Do they do it to shock or get attention?
    Or do they do it to get a reaction? Maybe they have a complex and they need recognition!
    What i feel is that whatever people say or do, religions are strong enough to stand the test of time as they have shown. So lets take Jesus's example and forgive.
    But i can totally understand the reaction.....its becoming one too many!

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  2. How does a Zebra think of God? A bigger Zebra with superpowers. How does a tribal make offerings to his God. He does it in the same way his abilities can afford him and his culture makes him think.

    So also Elton could think only in his way to a God that all people of his religion revere. If Jesus were around probably he would probably show the same mercy as he would to others.

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  3. nice thought nattu!
    but isn't it funny to think that had elton's father thought of God the way elton thinks, elton wouldn't be here to make an ass of himself. sorry, a zebra of himself!!
    what say u?

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  4. Zebra comment got a cobra bite (hi just kidding), so far i thought that politicians, Whores and people of that sort could defame others/misinterpret facts for their benefits and the list had been appended by another artists - OHHH its humane - sorry not that way. I tell you an incident about JC. In the name of religion the early Church had a big festival - as a custom - there were lots of business going around, the Church elders made coins as tokens thats to be exchanged with the money so that the church token money was appreciated benefiting definitely not the gods, however this was imposed to the poor too - Jesus Christ came there saw it - he abused an equivalent word for an ill legitimate progeny and physically whipped the guys out there - this is history (one of the reason why some people targeted JC to be dead). I feel Elton John is not to be forgiven - I am ready to take the whip.

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  5. i like the zest faby.
    thanks for being like- minded on this issue!

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  6. As far as TRUE masters are concerned they are in no way affected by such comments made about them from time to time. Remember it is only we, the followers of them, are very much affected by such comments and not they. In fact almost all great masters have faced such things not only in their lifetime but even after they have shed their bodies and attained immortality. As long as the world exists such dualities always exists.

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  7. thanks sreeram.
    yes u are right..most often a scathing remark affects the surrounding people... In this case the followers. It is not a question of duality, but the carelessness with which certain words are thrown around...as if the world is waiting for their pearls of wisdom!
    no one dares to insult islam, its symbols or prophets.
    by the way, Jesus is one of their prophetS too, but in his case they couldnt care less.
    thanks for the comment.

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  8. Ouch..Hell hath no fury as a Homophobe believer offended... :-)

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  9. hello madhu,
    ur comments are very much appreciated.
    but hell here is limited to english alpahbets.

    we all know that other forms of hell exist.for example..setting fires to homes and establishment, rape, plunder, murder and wiping out generations of the seeming offender.

    flying planes thro' high rise buildings shocking the junta into a scarred existence for years to come is the best of hells till date...

    actually this form of homophobe belivers have been too mute for too long!which is why megalomaniacs are having a field day!

    personally, i am no homophobe....but then i am no homophile either.

    to me..... they exist!

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  10. It has become a common practice nowadays to throw garbage on a religious figure to get name and fame or to make money out of it in the name of making a movie (Da vincie code).
    Its a shame on the gay guy who commented Jesus Christ as compassionate gay, but at the same time it is also shame for christians who disregard gays just because they are different. God is one and the same for all.
    So here what is operating is, Elton is not actually throwing garbage on Jesus CHrist, but throwing on the christians who is throwing garbage on gays.
    I stand for him on that matter. You come to South carolina and see the religious fanatism here. Moderate christians are scared of those people. If you live in place like this, probably one would understand the pain gay people would have undergone when they were refused entry in churches.

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  11. Sorry a little correction.
    MOderate christians are scared of fanatic christians or catholics. One of my friends who is a christian and believes in God and more than that a good person, was shamed by other catholic just because my friend does not have the habit of going to church on sundays.
    It does not matter whether one goes to church or not regularly to be a christian in following Christ, but what matters is how good he is as a person. Honestly some fanatic christians who disregard gays have their own secret lives with gays. They suck too (pun intended)

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  12. thanks for ur comments shyam. as always they are fiery and barbed!!

    talk of going off- tangent!

    i mean elton john's blasphemy has meandered into a discussion on moderate xtians, catholics and fanatic xtians.

    let me remind u once again that my post was about john dear going off limits and it would be better if he took his head out of the pile of crap that it is currently stuck into.

    to support john is ur perogative...but let me remind u that i need not come to carolina to see fanatism ..u come to india..i'l show u....

    the minute a muslim opens his mouth on any issue he is asked to "go to pakistan" as if india is the VHP or shiv sena's backyard!

    but the difference here is, we as moderate indans, are not scared of fanatism...like they are in carolina...

    and the pain that elton john and his tribe of bozos felt on refusing church -entry cannot be greater than the pain felt by dalits who were refused entry in to temples.
    and yes there are people leading double lives irrespective of their religion...let me remind u....example 'swami' nits..i mean nithyananda...(recent sting operation in chennai!!) ur right they all suck...pun intended!!

    so we can go on and on and on..arguing couter arguing...

    im not creating a manu shastra here..who is good, who's bad...what is good and what is bad...
    im sure we all have our referral manuals and holy books to teach us that ...

    but when someone's verbal diorrhea causes a public stink they better consult a shrink....

    i am a person who think of myself as an indian first, who is against any public display of religion...

    but even to me what elton john said was offensive...i say man...he's crossing his limits..u cannot defend him becos fanatic xtians treat him that way!

    what explanation is that? what about millions of moderates the world around?

    anyway let him try taking shots at islam and the next day he's a dead duck!!!!

    any way thanks for ur comments!

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  13. dalits are protesting now because they were suppressed in the past. IN the same way, gays irritate others using their freedom of speech because they were treated badly more than dalits. there were cases where in villages they were hung from their middle part for being gay in the past yester years. So its now their time to throw the garbage they faced. Fanatics exists in all religions and we are all moderates who mind our business and dont confront. Most of my friends here are obviously christians and they are really moderates and they dont go to church primarily because of the preaching that is very contradictory for them and thats what they told me when I asked them why they dont go to church.
    In my personal experience with my own realtor who is a regular church goer and a person who talk about God all the time, and he is a big cheat and far away from being honest. another faculty person in our department who is an ardent catholic is a back stabber on many people in the profession. So what is the point in their church learning. Is this what Jesus told them to be double standard. Similarly we find these people in our country too fooling people in the name of God, being so religious and take bribe and put the money as bribe in temple hundials.
    I dont support Elton, but I dont disagree the way he indirectly attacked the people who put down gays in the past and still putting them down. Honestly God belongs to everyone regardless of gender or sexuality or birth or caste or anything and no body has any rights to stop anyone or call the other as sinner. ONe who call someone as a sinner is actually committing sin. So the cycle is just repeating in another direction everywhere

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  14. u say "dalits are protesting now"....

    but as a form of protest would u be fine with them saying nasty things about KRISHNA???? after all they have been treated badly! so it looks that they have been assigned the right to throw garbage around!!!!

    and how do u know that the gays were MORE oppressed than the dalits????...i guess u have been doing ur home work on gays but not on dalits...


    DEAR FRIEND THEIR OPPRESSION STILL CONTINUES IN MANY PARTS OF INDIA, INCLUDING TAMIL NADU.
    AND IF EVERYONE WHO WAS TREATED BADLY CONTINUES TO THROW MORE GARBAGE AROUND( As is being endorsed by u) WE WOULD ALL BE DEAD FROM THE STENCH!!!

    and by the way what the homos face in south carolina or other parts of the old country is an extension of feudalism..where they were not allowed into churches etc...they alienated Blacks and gays and other forms of existence that didnt REALLY tally with theirs.

    obviously ur friends are having a problem with the establishment including the preachers ..if they had a problem with xtianity they wouldnt remain xtians..

    and as for the samples u gave...im sure, if u look back, u can give many more examples of HINDU tormentors!! did they behave that way becos of what krishna said... ???

    anyway this is getting us no where!

    i guess when we argue, clarity and moderation is required...
    otherwise let it rest!

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  15. I think you are not getting me. I am not supporting people who are throwing garbage on anything religious and sacred, but its human tendency to do when suppressed in the past and when obtain the freedom.
    People keep throwing Garbage on Krishna all the time and its not new. He is far more depicted by such people as a sex God who exploited women, without knowing any philosophy of jeevathma and paramaathma. If you go to youtube you can find a video on XXX kali super sex God depicting Durga Devi as sex God while in reality Kali being dark represents Ignorance and destroyer of ignorance and hence she is depicted dark. She is not an existing person. Lot of sanathana dharmic philosophies have been misinterpreted continuosly by westerners and christian missionaries in the past and muslims when they invaded India they burnt lot of scriptures destroyed the temples and those are now repeated by fanatic VHPs who are far away from what Gita is actually talking and patience of Lord Rama and they think they represent hindus while most of us dont like them. Yet we cant stop them too, because they are stupids.
    These activities represent the immaturity in understanding God and thats why these people feel "my God" "your God" and "their God". if someone is throwing trash out of their immaturity on Jesus or Sankara or Ramanuja, it is the same and it has nothing to do with religion, because these souls are far beyond any religion and they are common for everyone if you have a broader understanding. They just appeared in different sections of the human culture and society and hence different paths are followed by their followers, but their work was essentially the same in establishing the path towards finding the ultimate truth.
    these people who throw trash should not be given importance and discussed and by doing so, they win, because thats their goal. However, every soul at some time point is made to realize the truth in some way. Just because someone is calling jesus as gay and krishna as womanizer, what is honestly there to give importance to that? that is just his way of understanding as how a Zebra could think that God is another Zebra too. IN reality in the eyes of Almighty who can take any form, whether gay or straight or transexual or asexual, everyone is the same. One who discriminates other because of their difference is actually immatured.

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  16. u need to have the last word..dont u shyam, my frnd?
    u may have very noble intentions but they dont come across that way.......

    ur statement are SOOOOOO contradictory..

    for example...

    recent post..
    "I am not supporting people who are throwing garbage on anything religious and sacred, but its human tendency to do when suppressed".

    previous post"I dont support Elton, but I dont disagree the way he indirectly attacked the people who put down gays in the past and still putting them down".

    when u dont disagree u agree..no two ways abt it...
    "krishna is far more depicted by such people as a sex God who exploited women, without knowing any philosophy of jeevathma and paramaathma" ..

    that is how he is depicted by the hindus themselves which of course other people caught on to...
    the jeevathma and paramathma interpretation gives credibility to the dalliances and make it more acceptable of course...

    not misinterpreted by xtians..interpreted and misinterpreted by krishna's own...

    who misinterpreted ur philosophies? is caste system,sathi sysyem, illiteracy, child marriage, opression and a 1000 other superstitions in india a misinterpretation of ur philosophies by the hindus themselves or by xtians AND MUSLIMS.

    at the drop of a hat u are ready to blame others. clean ur own backyard first my friend!

    of course there is no ur god and my god! we dont need a superior intellect to tell us that do we?
    so lets not discuss mundane stuff like same path same message etc...

    "Just because someone is calling jesus as gay and krishna as womanizer, what is honestly there to give importance to that?"

    that is entirely ur perspective..not necessarily a result of broad mindedness.i would assign it to a level of sensitivity.

    the fact that i reacted is becos Jesus is a historical figure whose life is more or less documented . he is not a mythlogical figure where one had to keep guessing as to what happened!

    there is no way he was GAY...give us a break please... and it seems every fool in town is having his say....as to what he is or was!

    of course i cant stop it... i know.. the least i can do is to register my protest

    i admire the muslims in this aspect..they have put the terror of God into these fools...

    and it is not elton's way of understanding God....that is ur way of understanding elton..

    today u are justifying homos and their freedom of expression and how it cannot be prevented and that it is natural...tomorrow the pedophiles will justify their acts and so will a whole lot of others..even rapists....thay can all prove it is natural which cannot be suppressed and that they are no different from others.

    one who keeps insisting that others are immature should check his level of maturity at regular intervals.

    anyway shyam,im exhausted....can we just stop?

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  17. First of all bible has been edited several times and nobody even knows who wrote it and what is truth in it and this is as per lot of christians I am interacting with.

    I am not interested in arguing anymore as this blog is just useless..

    It has been well documented and proved that europeans misinterpreted sanatana dharmic scriptures and thats their way of spreading christianity. Muslims tortured in the past and forced hindus to become muslims and its also history.

    Your ancestors were once hindus and converted either out of fear or out of poverty and thats fact. Christian missionaries convert by targetting poor people giving hopes and after conversion they drop them.

    Whats wrong if some one wants to think Jesus as gay or Krishna as their lover. Thats their wish.
    Nothing wrong with it.

    Gays have their own church and who knows who was gay or not.

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  18. The fact that bible has been edited several times by several people, probably there is a chance that all the anti gay element and stories in it could also have been introduced by people who wanted to suppress their own sexuality and hence wrote against it.
    IN fact most people who are against gays actually have their own secret desires and keep fighting their conflicts internally.
    So may be some of these kind of men could have potentially introduced these stories too while in reality Jesus would have been compassionate towards everyone regardless of their sexuality and may not have hated gays existed in those days whether openly or secretively.
    So it has nothing to do with Jesus, but his comments seem more towards christians who oppose gays. He just want to irritate them. I agree with it 100% because a person who really understands God wouuld not hate or discriminate anyone. one who does it, has no proper understanding of God and thats why the feeling of superior and inferior comes..

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  19. thanks for commenting SIX times on this useless blog.IM SURE IT HAPPENED IN AN EFFORT TO ENLIGHTEN ME!!

    a little knowledge is more dangerous than no knowledge at all.......this has also been well documented and proved.
    u may or may not be interested in arguing anymore...i was not too...but the stupidity of the comment forces me to..

    talking about my ancestors is really hitting below the belt and there was no need to ...but then again not doing so needs REFINERY...even when one is arguing...

    can't expect that here, can we?

    ur ignorance is sooo evident when u talked of my ancestors...

    if u didnt know it already....christianity and syrian xtians existed in india before any european missionary or american fly-by night preachers set foot on indian soil...

    I DONT DENY that my ancestors were HINDUS...BUT U ARE TALKING OF SOMETHING SO SO SO LONG AGO...
    3 GENERATIONS IN AMERICA AND U ARE AN AMERICAN....20 CENTURIES OF XTIANITY AND WE HAVE LONG LONG LONG AGO STOPPED BEING HINDUS...

    i dont know why i am saying all this as i am quite comfy with whatever i am...

    but i wish.... just wish...that facts are not twisted...that is all i wished of elton john too...i see a resemblance here...twisting facts....


    syrian xtians are a fairly flourishing group in my ancestral kerala....they are a landed gentry and business men, who even once practised feudalism..even SOME OF MY ANCESTORS DID THIS TILL THE 1950S AND I KNOW IT...


    THEY DIDNT GET THE LANDS FROM THE MISSIONARIES ...IT WAS ANCESTRAL IN MOST CASES...SOME LOST THEIR WEALTH DUE TO NEGLIGENCE AND MISMANGEMENT ...OTHERS MANAGE TO KEEP THEM!

    THIS IS FOR UR INFORMATION...THIS EVEN ANY HINDU IN KERALA ...WORTH HIS SALT WILL TELL U....

    THIS IS DOCUMENTED HISTORY....THAT IS WHY WE THE NASRANIS,ARE CLUBBED ALONG WITH THE NAMBUDIRIS AND THE NAIRS AS UPPER CASTE OR CLASS OR WHATEVER U WANT TO SAY...

    NO ONE CAN CHANGE THAT...

    THERE IS NO NEED FOR ME TO PROVE ANYTHING TO U OR ANYONE ELSE..

    u know me fairly well...DO U THINK MY ANCESTORS WOULD HAVE FEARED THAT EASILY? OR WOULD HAVE STOOD STOOPED BEFORE ANYONE THAT EASILY...???


    SO THE NEXT TIME U WANT TO BASH A NON-HINDU BE MORE DIGNIFIED...


    and another thing is that everyone knows that the bible has been edited and this applies to all holy books...

    they took shape through interpretations of middle men...every holy book worth ITS pages!

    if these books were in the primodial form no one would be able to imbibe much frm them.

    so hold ur horses!
    NO ONE HERE IS TALKING OF HATING HOMOS...IM SORRY FOR THEM..IMAGINE HAVING AN ENEMA EVERY TIME U WANTED TO HAVE SEX...ha ha. JUST JOKING!!OR MAY BE NOT!

    u talk so muuch of understanding God and non-discrimination...but ur pro-gay comments drip of hate, discrimination, bias and a tragic form of megalomania!

    ciao AND JUST CHILL!

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  20. Its funny with your following sentence in the end of your reply.
    " .IM SORRY FOR THEM..IMAGINE HAVING AN ENEMA EVERY TIME U WANTED TO HAVE SEX...ha ha. JUST JOKING!!OR MAY BE NOT!

    Gays does not mean only men. technically lesbians are gays too and do they use enema..hahha
    are they not hated as a group because they are lesbians ane not married to men?
    Anyways, Elton won in this game in his own sneaky way irritating majority of fanatics..

    What I meant as useless blog is not your blog as a whole but writing a blog about something is needs to be ignored instead of giving importance. You need to chill with these religious comments instead of getting provoked. If someone tells me Krishna was gay or womanizer or Rama had two wives, I honestly dont care or would bother to argue with him.. May I would have argued years ago out of immaturity and yes these arguments are actually immatured.

    This reply is to clarify that I did not mean to demean your blog.
    I am going to stop here regardless of what ever you are going to write or not...

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  21. I forgot to add this and did know how to edit.

    ANyways, when I mentioned that word, "your ancestors" I did not mean in literal sense your family (reeja's background), but in a general Indian Christians and muslims were once HIndus and majority were converted by force by Arab invasions in the past or their poverty was used. It was no way connected to your particular family of syrian christians of kerala or anything.

    The fact that you have given such a big explanation by jumping to conclusion is not surprising, because after all you just got provoked for some useless comments said by someone for his popularity..
    So its okay I understand with your loooooooong explanation.. although not needed..because it was not meant for you in person..
    So it all remains in how we interpret a word..

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  22. thanks for removing the 'useless' tag from my blog!
    now it has regained its lost glory!!!!!!!

    some points for u to know...

    1. only MSMs are known as gays...technically or non technically... but i understand what u mean..
    2. people may hate lesbos...i am not discussing lesbos here...eltons is gay remember! so have to stay focussed!
    3. as a man of science im sure u know that lesbos NEED not take an enema ...THEY ARE NOT THE CLASSICAL BACK DOOR ENTRANTS... HA HA ! facts! facts!get them straight..even if u are dealing with gays!!!!ha!
    4.e.john may have irritated fanatics...im not one of them...
    5. ignoring or addressing an issue is subjective...
    6.taking a stand when u need to is part of adulthood....this way... that way...anyone can do anything..tell anything....is part of a 69 existence
    7. whether u WANT to make a rama...krishna comment is ur perogative...the fact that i chose to comment is mine

    8.Religion is not a play issue... to be twisted by morons and sodomizers.

    8.my blog is a space where i chose to democratically express my opinions or voice my concerns....
    9. and it will remain that way....

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  23. 1.oh and i didnt see the added bit..."i didnt jump to conclusion"..that is the way u expressed urself....anybody who is able to read will understand...

    2. when u say "ur ancestors"..it is my ancestors and not that of my neighbor who may be a christian...
    3.syrian xtians are a community not 'my' family.... the first christians of india! and one of the first group of xtians in the world!
    4. the majority of xtians in india are not forcefully converted ...or were tempted by money....THAT IS A LIE...
    it is more or less a modern phenomena.
    5.i can ONLY reply. ..to things that u write...what u REALLY MEAN, only God and u know!!!!!
    5.BTW are u someone who is not provoked? think again!!

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  24. I am not provoked, but I just argue with people who are provoked and thats one of bringing out their internal thoughts.
    I think my answer in nut shell is similar to what nattu mentioned in humorous way.
    When we were all in DC, we used to have these kind of discussions for fun.
    we all had a similar friend who was a PHd student from Maharashtra and nattu would just give the key and we all will start watching the fun.

    this whole blog is just a reminder of that and I am having a good laugh.

    I am sure nattu would agree with me and if he is reading the whole thing, he must be laughing too..
    thats our way of fun..

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  25. Just curious..
    Since you mentioned after an unwanted explanation on lesbians,
    "is lesbianism accepted in christianity" since you say that we need to be focused here on gays. IN general fanatic christians dont like homosexuals, regardless of their gender. So in turn they find a chance to irritate them.

    From my understanding based on my interaction with such type of ladies in the US, I came to know that they use the same word "gay" to identify themselves too..So colloquially the word gay is used in general for homosexuals regardless of their gender.
    So whatever sarcastic fun you are trying to add in your blog, you are hurting the lesbians too.
    So stop and I am not interested in your sarcarsm and explanations.
    Assume whatever you want, a female friend of mine who is openly gay, is far more a nicer person with human values than some of the very religious people I see here who visit church every weekend but back stab on others.

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  26. hello provoked!
    im having a good laugh too... and am playing too....just that i am playing with words...

    if lesbos are hurt..u can hold their hands for me!
    the lesbos can call themselves what they want...but gays are GUYS!...talk to people who know what they are talking about....

    if my writng makes nattu and u laugh then its more than i asked for! wow! all of us laughing!

    since we are all in the laughing mode let me ask u...do fanatic hindus approve of gays? and if so..since when?

    ha ha i can hear the laughter!what fun..im having fun too!! couldnt be better!

    "So stop and I am not interested in your sarcarsm and explanations".....

    stay away from explanations and u will not hear any from me... i like ur nerve my friend!

    even as i laugh...(we all laugh).... let me gently remind u that it is MY BLOG...remember...and if u are not interested in its inherent sarcasm u are welcome to stop being provoked.......

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  27. To my knowledge, there is no story discriminating transexuals or homosexuals or asexuals or anyone in sanatana dharma scriptures.. nothing is written that I read so far. if I come across any, would let you know..

    By the way, it is not true that all scriptures of different religions are edited. For example, every one knows that Sage Vyasa wrote Mahabharatha and BhagwatGita is part of it. So we know the author and certainly that portion of Gita in 18 chapters is never edited. any insertion or deletion will make it very obvious.

    Be happy with your blog and I will stay away, since its becoming like one on one conversation rather than many people readin it. Guess I can do this over emails..

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  28. I think you will find the following link interesting to ponder upon with other fellow christians who has read the bible, since I am far away from that and cant comment on the authenticity.
    But its interesting to me how some Christians are looking to explore the secrets..

    http://skeptically.org/newtestament/id5.html

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  29. "To my knowledge, there is no story discriminating transexuals or homosexuals or asexuals or anyone in sanatana dharma scriptures.. nothing is written that I read so far. if I come across any, would let you know.."
    THANKS BUT THE QUESTION WAS "do fanatic hindus approve of gays? and if so..since when?"... I ASK THIS SINCE U WERE SO ACRIDIC ABOUT FANATIC XTIANS AND THEIR DISLIKE FOR HOMOS....

    OF COURSE,,, ALL HOLY BOOKS ARE EDITED AND MODIFIED!...

    GITA TOOK SHAPE FROM THE ADVISE KRISHNA GAVE TO ARJUN DURING THE WAR....RIGHT?

    WHAT WAS SAGE VYASA DOING IN THE BATTLE FIELD??????????????????AND HOW DID HE GET TO KNOW WHAT TRANSPIRED THERE????think!!!!!INSTEAD OF CHURNING OUT PRO - HINDU ANTI -XTIAN STATEMENTS!

    AND BY THE WAY WHO TOLD U THAT THE BIBLE DOES NOT HAVE AUTHORS??????....EVERY SINGLE BOOK WITHIN THE BIBLE HAS AN AUTHOR....ASK UR LEARNED, GOOD,MODERATE XTIAN FRIENDS BEFORE SOUNDING OFF!!!

    THANKS FOR THE PROMISE...

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  30. Well if Jesus can stop cyclone in the seas and can raise on the third day after his body was dead, being just another historial human who existed, then Sage Vyasa could have heard everything what Sri Krishna Spoke in the battle too or with the act of that Lord Krishna..

    If Jesus can fly, being a human and could have born parthenogenetically which never exists in humans scientifically, then even sage vyasa would have single handedly written the Bharatha story and Krishna would have existed too.

    You cant argue with me reeja when I have lot of Christian friends who question their own religion and scientific basis of lot of craps existing in it.

    Sorry give me an answer how it was possible for a dead man to appear on the third day and how it was possible that he was born parthenogenetically.

    Krishna was born out of sexual union by his parnets and not parthenogenetically.

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  31. According to bible originally christians were even thinking that earth is flat and that its the center of the universe, while in valmiki ramayana that was written much before bharatha katha, sun was referred as a a central star that governs the solar system with its energy and praised for sustaining this solar system being in the center. This comes in Auditya hridayam. The planetary movements around the sun has been recorded and registered in these scriptures in detail and in vedic astrology and those details perfectly match with scientific observation on the movement of these celestial objects in space around the sun.

    So as per Hindu scriptures, earth was never flat and earth never remained at the center of the solar system

    Tell me you as a scientist how do you think Jesus would have been born parthenogenetically when there is no birth recorded in Humans of such type. You are a geneticist.

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  32. I even doubt if Jesus was historical or mythological.

    If historical human, there are lot of scientific discrepancies. So he must be mythological and stories were created to make him a historical figure.

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  33. well there are lot of crappy stories exist in hindu scriptures too, but no body claims them to be historical purely and people agreed and settled as philosophies written in the form of mythological stories..

    So if you think and expect someone to accept jesus a historical man as divine and that made him to stop cyclone and to raise from the dead, then why not such divinity existed in an Indian born before this historical jesus in INdian subcontinent who could have actually heard that Lord Krishna's voice in meditation, since nobody knows what and how he actually heard in reality, whether he was physically there or not.

    I am still curious how a historical man was born parthenogenetically..

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  34. And to answer the following question of yours:
    """do fanatic hindus approve of gays? and if so..since when?"... I ASK THIS SINCE U WERE SO ACRIDIC ABOUT FANATIC XTIANS AND THEIR DISLIKE FOR HOMOS....""

    No hindu scripture says hate this group of people just because they are different and neither hindus hate gays (includes LGBT). If a particular fanatic hindu hates, that is his personal problem and aversion but unlike christianity where majority of christians openly raised flags saying "God hates Fags"
    hinduism does not talk about hatredness anywhere...for people to raise flags against a set of people who are different.

    Anyways..Just still curious...How do you think it is possible for a historical man to have born parthenogenetically. Give me a logical scientific explanation for this.

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  35. OH ITS PROVOKED AGAIN....OH NO!!!

    STAY FOCUSSED... PROVOKED !

    U ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE!

    YES I HAVE SEEN UNFERTILIZED EGGS GIVING RISE TO EMBRYOS PARTHENOGENETICALLY IN IVF LABS..OF COURSE.... THEY ARE NOT VIABLE... AND HENCE NEVER TRANSFERRED BACK INTO THE UTERUS...

    BUT THEN HEARD OF MIRACLES?

    I DONT EXPECT U TO ACCEPT ANYONE ..LEAVE ALONE jESUS...HISTORY IS NOT MADE UP OF MORONS..IT EXISTS WHETHER U ACCEPT IT OR NOT!!!!!

    AS FOR VYASA..THAT WAS SAID IN REFERNCE TO THE EDITION OF HOLY BOOKS...SEE HOW U FLEW INTO A FIT AND MADE JESUS TO FLY...ANOTHER OF UR BASELESS LIES....!!!

    LIKE I SAID U ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE...

    AND U ARE WRONG MY FRIEND..I CAN GIVE U BACK WORD FOR WORD...OTHERWISE I WOULDNT START WRITING ABOUT SENSITIVE ISSUES.....

    BUT NOW IT IS REALLY NOT WORTH IT...AS U HAVE TURNED MY BLOG INTO A FORUM TO SPILL HATRED AND RIDICULE.....

    THAT IS NOT MY INTENTION...

    I THOUGHT U SAID THAT U DID NOT REACT TO SUCH COMMENTS...

    UR HYPOCRISY HAS REACHED AN ALL TIME LOW,MY FRIEND!

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  36. AND WHERE IN THE BIBLE DO THEY SAY EARTH IS FLAT????????
    SEE A SHRINK IMMEDIATELY...AND GET A CURE FOR UR DELUSIONS...

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